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Response to Dr. Hawramany’s Op/Ed

"Turtles Can Fly: Distortion Of Facts and Negative Image  For Kurds"

 

By: Fredrick Cloyd

July 27, 2005

Dear Readers and Dr. Nazhad Khasraw Hawramany;

This is a short response to the Op/Ed piece on the movie Turtles Can Fly that Dr. Hawramany has written. I believe that we shall critique and endlessly question ourselves and the world, making for a better world, a more just and powerful and compassionate world, more full of questions than answers.

I, as a scholar-activist myself, agree with the facts you present in your Op/Ed piece regarding how ‘the Kurds’ are ‘more modern’ than people think and that Turtles Can Fly represents the Kurds as anti-modern or ‘primitive.’  Also, you mention the movie’s anti-American’ points.

Firstly, as an scholar of social-cultural anthropology, people know that there is no ‘one’ Kurdish experience. I have found, in my experience, that many people in one area, of one socio-economic class, will not know of and/or experience the same things as in other areas. This is always true.  So to say that ‘Kurds’ do not experience something or know something or not know something—is also a distortion of the reality of the diversity of Kurdish experience.  In my experience so far, as an American, very often the most privileged people—albeit in the most kindest and empowering of intentions, speak for everyone in that group.  But the privileged –even as a Kurd, may carry the residuals of colonial oppression: the wish to be the master. 

To struggle against the Master—the privileged, sometimes the colonized want the same for all of the oppressed, wanting what the master has and props him/herself up to be.  So all Kurds are Middle Class and educated? I think that this also is oppressive against Kurds.  We must honor the Kurds who did not have the privilege (or the curse) of being educated, who were forced to not be educated by the villagers, their families, or the police, or simply because they had to work to eat. There were villages—as you may know, whose men were killed or taken away and were left with women and children.  In Northern Kurdistan, in my knowledge so far, many Kurds were controlled by fundamentalist Muslim indoctrination—one of the many strategies of the United States government, a few European countries, and Turkey.  This would keep the Kurds divided.  However, it is not only political.  This is *lived.*  Not all Kurds are middle class and educated.  As horrible oppressions were experienced in Southern and Eastern Kurdistan, the experiences in Northern Kurdistan exposed Southeastern Turkey to more psychological brutalization at the hands of government-appointed Kurds, government-appointed village leaders, the village guard system, and the US-inspired Islamicization of areas in Kurdistan and Central Asia—as buffers against the former Soviet Union during the Cold War.  Even in the US, where I live, I see the effects of people who *do not speak English* and are *not educated* and have horrendous stories to tell.

It is a travesty to make their experiences subordinate to privileged Kurds’ experiences and words.  Privileged Kurds could do a better service by including all Kurdish experience and speaking for a peaceful solution and justice for all Kurds and all people everywhere, not privileging a certain perspective that wants to make the Kurds middle class, and thus, trying to make the Kurds more like everyone else so as not to be ashamed.  We must acknowledge that the devastation of the indigenous cultures, populations and traditions by modernization and the primacy of ‘nation’ is not a stranger to Kurds. Assimilating all Kurds under a single identity and experience is not a fruitful exercise, demoting and oppressing village Kurds, Kurds who do not speak English, or Kurds who are not educated enough, etc.  I feel it is important, possibly, to create unification for Kurds.  Can this *not* be done without AGAIN oppressing certain Kurds because they are supposedly ‘not primitive.’  Whose idea is the concept ‘primitive’?  Why are Kurds using the categories of language such as ‘primitive’ –which is used to oppress people and make it seem that certain people are unworthy?  Can we not examine our own assimilation—as educated people, and to create better ways of uplifting the Kurds, making certain Kurds invisible because we, ourselves, are ashamed of them being those terms such as ‘primitive’?

Also, regarding Anti-American representations in the movie—as an American citizen, those of us who speak against our own government’s policies are also watched closely and made abnormal and second-class.  The section of Dr. Hawramany’s Op/Ed piece that speaks of America’s ‘good’ points is simplistic.  To be sure, without the US and its allies’ ‘No-Fly Zone’, the Kurds in that area of Kurdistan would possibly be further annihilated. That area is thriving in large part, due to the Americans.

But it is also because of the industriousness, strength, creativity, and fortitude of the Kurds in that area and around it that have allowed survival. Do we know how many Kurdish orphans there are?  How did they survive? Were they in nicely-built schools or in nice orphanages?  And even so, were those buildings and organizations built in a day?  Oppression has effects.  How did the Kurds survive?  By middle class ways?  Did all Kurdish children speak English?  Do all adults care for a stranger’s children?  Even in the United States, this is not possible.  ‘Turtles Can Fly’ presents a portrait of *strength* not primitiveness.  So children who sell guns did not exist?  How else were they supposed to eat or care for their little brothers and sisters?  How were young boys creating their sense of manhood?  It is closely related, is it not? 

To say that these are ‘false’ representations is a way of oppressing certain Kurds, while making other Kurds who are more privileged as the only ones who can speak ‘the truth’ about the Kurds.  How can there be a single truth? Why are certain Kurds unwilling to care about the Kurds who do not have the privileges of the others who have privilege and who can speak the ‘right’ languages or have the right religion or be the right way to be a woman?  Secular Kurds who may have had the privilege of being secular, may not understand that certain religious doctrines are not primitive, they are part of the person’s identity and must be challenged with care. 

My last comment is on the fact that ‘Turtles Can Fly’ is a movie.  The director *never* said or intended for the movie to represent *all* Kurds.  How many Kurdish filmmakers are there?  Not enough. But to speak of one of the few directors there are in the world who speak to certain Kurdish realities as misprepresenting is at best, a misrepresentation of the filmmaker’s intentions and focus.  When I circulate amongst Kurdish friends, they speak of how realistic the movie was.  Are they lying? 

It is true that most movies about Kurds are mono-dimensional. They portray poorer Kurds, they portray their oppressions—violence, state power, racism, dominant religious practices, etc as well as the aspects of community cooperation, dignity, and strength.  To show a movie, then, of the more privileged Kurds would help, perhaps, in making the Kurds less mono-dimensional, showing the diversity of Kurdish lives and aspirations.  But it would be sad, Mr. Hawramany, if all movies, now, were to portray Kurdish villagers in a way that seems to be suggested in your Op/ed piece on July 10, 2005.  Would that not be another form of oppression?  How shall educated people write? For whom?  Who do we leave out and oppress (make angry, sad, and vengeful as a consequence) in our wanting to uplift our people? 

I am simply saying that we need to pay attention to the diversity of our communities and not be so quick in determining what is best for everyone in a way the makes lives invisible. The poor must be given a chance. So far, from most of the Kurdish politicians’ words, there is not much said about the poor and the hungry and the illiterate. They are not important.  Assimilation is a dangerous and complex game. The game can be won if we are paying attention to the diversity and the complexity of experience and to empower the voices of their concerns rather than covering them over with our own.

Thank you Dr. Hawramany, for your care. I am just an American, but I wanted to voice my unity with you in loving the Kurdish people and want freedom.  I am differing with you on your wish to make one-sided points regarding the movie “Turtles Can Fly.”

In Solidarity,

Fredrick Cloyd

San Francisco, California, USA


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

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