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Transcript of the doorstep interview with President Massoud Barzani Nov 1, 2005 Opening statements Tony Blair: Good afternoon everyone. A very warm welcome to President Barzani. We are delighted to have you here, Sir. Thank you for everything that you are doing in Iraq at the present time. Obviously after the Constitutional Referendum the next stage is to have successful elections in December. We hope that they will be successful and that that will allow Iraq to become the stable and democratic country its people want to see. And thanks to you and all of your colleagues for your courage throughout this process. Thank you.

President Barzani:

Thank you very much Mr Prime Minister. Allow me to express our thanks and appreciation for the warm welcome and also the thanks and the appreciation of the people of Kurdistan and the majority of the people of Iraq for the brave role that you have personally played and also for your courage in helping the people of Iraq to be liberated.

And I would also like to express our condolences and sympathies to the families of the British soldiers who have sacrificed their lives in order to save other people's lives and also to create freedom.

Mr Prime Minister, we have started a democratic process in Iraq with the help and support from you, from the United States and from other coalition partners.

We are facing and confronting the terrorists who have tried their best in order not to allow for this process to succeed.

There might be voices here in Britain and in the United States and in our country of people who are anti-war, but this will have been imposed on us. If there is any weakness in dealing with this war, then the war will come to our doorsteps.

And I would like to assure you, Mr Prime Minister, that we in Kurdistan will do our best so that the election results will be very good so that after the election we will be able to form a government that will represent all the peoples of Iraq and also succeed in our efforts with the democratic process and we will try our best in order to work for the implementation of the Constitution that was ratified recently after the vote on the 15th of October so that we will be heading towards a future that will be prosperous for all of the people of Iraq and also for us to live in peace because Iraq is a key.

And once again I would like to thank you and express my appreciation.

Tony Blair:

Thank you Sir. Thank you very much.

Question and answer session

Question:

Mr Barzani, my question to you is regarding the coming elections. The elections that have been announced. Which of these lists to you feel is closest to the Kurdish people's aspirations and do you expect an alliance with the United Iraqi Alliance after the problems with this government?

Prime Minister, if I may ask you regarding the number of 26,000 Iraqi civilian deaths over the past 2 years, is this number as high as you expected and what are the responsibilities of the coalition troops to protect Iraqi lives?

President Baezani:

In Kurdistan we enjoy very good relations with all the different groups and lists and we have to wait for the results of the elections. We will work on the basis of commitment to the Constitution that was drafted and that was ratified. And we will continue to play our role, which was a mediatory role, and the role which we play with all the different groups and our coalition will be with all of them.

Tony Blair:

Let me make it clear, we regret any civilian deaths. Those who don't regret civilian deaths are the people engaged in acts of terrorism deliberately killing civilians, and that is not the Iraqi Security Forces nor the Multinational Force. It is the terrorists and insurgents who are killing people in order to stop the democratic process, and my point is very simple for everybody. Let the democratic process work, let people vote freely, let them decide their own government, and if the violence stopped today, the multinational force could leave tomorrow. It is the violence that keeps us in order to support the political process. So those who are responsible for civilian deaths are those who are engaged in acts of violence to prevent democracy.

Question:

The Cabinet Secretary has announced an enquiry into allegations levelled by the Conservatives at David Blunkett and his business dealings. Can you continue to give him your full support whilst that investigation is ongoing and the jury is still out?

Tony Blair:

I do give him my confidence. Look in respect of the allegations about the shareholding, I know David is looking into that. I have been dealing with other things today. But I think that he should be allowed to get on with his job which is very important in reforming and reshaping our welfare system.

Question:

Two questions, the first for President Barzani. After your visit and your meeting with the Prime Minister, I know that important issues have been raised and discussed. Could you give us some of the basic things which have been discussed between you which is relevant to the future of the Kurdistan region?

And a question for Prime Minister Blair, the coalition of the alliance between Kurdistan and Britain, could we call that one of the bases of this alliance is confronting terrorism?

President Barzani:

Of course we discussed the current situation in Iraq and the future, and we also stressed our full co-operation for the domestic process that we have started in Iraq so that it will make progress and will succeed and our views were identical.

Tony Blair:

Look, one of the interesting things about Kurdistan is that there, because there has been the opportunity for people to live and work in peace, that region is so much stronger. It is economically stronger, it is stronger in terms of the living standards of its people and what it shows is what Iraq itself could be like if the terrorism would stop and proper systems of democracy then shape the future of Iraq. This is a basic and important struggle for not just the freedom of people in Iraq against terrorism, but for the freedom of people everywhere against terrorism. The self-same people who are killing innocent people in Iraq are killing innocent people in India, in Egypt, in this country, in other parts of Europe, in other parts of the world, and therefore the bond between us is a very, very strong one. It is to stand firm for democracy against terrorism, and to be prepared to carry that fight to whatever corner of the world these terrorists operate.

Question:

Forgive me President, this is for the Prime Minister on a domestic matter again. If it is found that David Blunkett had a conflict of interests in holding on to these shares for his family, what will be the consequences for him?

Tony Blair:

Well I think Gary, if you will forgive me, we had better work out first of all what has actually happened and as I said a moment or two ago in answer to the earlier question, I know David is looking into this issue to do with the shareholding, and I don't think I have got really anything more to say on it at this point except to say that I don't think people should rush to a conclusion until we actually know what has gone on.